Pisound: DI Out?

Hi there,
I’m waiting for my Pisound that I ordered a few days ago.
Meanwhile I was trying to figure out how I will use it on my Bass setup.

I would go for a “Dual mono” out.
1 >>> Monitor
2 >>> Mixer

For this (2) I think that I would need a DI Box cause the signal is unbalanced, Right?
Any suggestion on how to go to FOH without DI?

Thanks in advance.
Fra.

The outputs are at line level, it should fine to connect directly to the monitor (assuming it has built in amplifier) and mixer. You’d have to use a Y splitter cable to convert from 6.35mm stereo output to the mono inputs you need, and send the same output to both audio channels.

Isn’t it an UNbalanced signal?

It is, but why is it a concern? What kind of inputs does your monitor and mixer have?

I Will use a Poweramp + Passive Cab as monitor.

The real matter Is: when going on live session we don’t know what we will have as mixer or FOH, and we have many meters between me and the mixer.

It Is a shame that PiSound has no DI out. Maybe on next versions It could be a nice update :slight_smile:

Pisound’s output is not high impedance, in contrast to microphones or electric guitars, so in most cases, direct connection to mixers and monitors should be fine, but of course if you want the signal to be converted to balanced or some other kind of connector, it makes sense to use converters in between.

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Okay I am enjoying PiSound atm. The only thing that get me annoyed is the input clipping with gain knob all way down.
I’m using just my passive Bassguitar straight into PiSound input. Red Clip Led is lightning up.
I think that’s not the right behaviour if this Soundcard is made for instrument. Probably a PAD BUTTON would really help.

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AFAIU (being sound technician mostly for live, since the 1980s) feeding the Pisound directly with your passive bass guitar isn’t right, you should convert to line signal/level before, and attenuate until the clipping goes away. Passive (bass-)guitar signal also is called Hi-Z for high impedance. Feeding this to a Line input will change the frequency content and reduce treble contents. Something’s strange though as I doubt that a mere passive bass guitar signal could clip a line input at minimum gain…

The Pisound specs name 100kΩ impedance while a HiZ input would rather be at 1MΩ.

On the Output side you can think of the Pisound like any other Line level instrument on stage, e.g. Synths also often have unbalanced Line outs only. Balanced/unbalanced transmission method mainly is important for reducing noise during long cable runs (stage->FOH). That’s when you would use a Stereo DI box, in your homestudio or just to connect to a monitor it wouldn’t normally matter.

Thanks for your reply.
I use a Polytune 3 as buffer before going into the PiSound.

Anyway, what Is weird Is the fact also a passive Guitar can clip the PiSound as It could be too sensitive. That’s why a pad (-x dB) could be useful for Active basses or other instruments.

I think that It Is Easy to implement and could be a nice feature, especially for avoiding to buy/add another piece of Gear (volume) in your pedalboard.

That’s my 2¢>

I too experienced clipping with both active and passive basses. More so with active basses. That’s why I built and use the MOD step ladder attenuator.

Ok, but buying a 100€ hat and spend another 50% for introduce a simple “PAD” or “-xdB” feature it’s something really avoidable for me.

@Black_Eyes I’m not sure what other option you may have. And I understand as a bass player that it’s not the most convenient to have to put a pad pedal into your signal but unless Blokas adds that to the device you have few options. I also asked for a pad as well, citing the fact that most modern bass amps have a -15db pad specifically for active basses.

I would to add my voice to this discussion.

When pisound will have to be modified someday, I also thought that a great enhancement would be:
Adding an Hi Z botton (and the necessary on the pcb)
Adding a Pad botton (also some components added)

It is a standard on usb audio interfaces and it is not a toy for all the musiciens.

Thanks you for Reading.