So I wanted to give an update on my Pi5 experance thus far. Since upgrading broke things, I put a fresh 64bit PiOS image on the fastest SD card I have and the pisound is showing up and working perfectly out of the box. Amazingly so. This should hold me over till we see a new release of Patchbox.
As always your mileage may very.
Has anyone else tried the little 8.5mm header yet?
K.
The .deb packages that Pisound and most of Patchbox OS rely on have been ported for arm64 architecture, available for bookworm OS release.
The install-pisound.sh and apt-setup.sh scripts have been adjusted accordingly, and will automatically fall back to the previous .deb packages if the OS release is unsupported.
To install the basic Pisound software, run this command:
curl https://blokas.io/pisound/install.sh | sh
To only update the APT packages without installing anything, run this command:
curl https://blokas.io/apt-setup.sh | sh
This is great! Just to clarify, this doesn’t include the real-time kernel, correct?
Yes, it doesn’t affect the currently running kernel, apart from asking to upgrade it to a version containing the up to date Pisound driver.
Hi,
Thnx for all the info about pi5 and modep. I have installed it (Pisound - modep) and it works great. Because it is not a full Patchbox OS, there is no config for the Pisound to set sample rate and buffer size. I have found out thee jack settings can be changed in the file jackdrc. But when I set a sample rate of 96000 or 192000 (-r option) and restart the system I have no sound on the Pisound output. So the line in jackrdc is like this:
exec /usr/bin/jackd -t 2000 -R -P 95 -d alsa -d hw:pisound -r 96000 -p 128 -n 2 -X seq -s -S
When I restart jack the server is displaying this error:
Feb 23 10:31:24 raspberrypi5 jackdrc[6663]: JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error
It seems like it is impossible to change the sample rate. I can change the buffer size to 64 to reduce latency. I still would like the discover how the sample rate influences the latency and how far I can take it. On the other hand, I read an article about sample rate, harmonics and distortion/overdrive. and how a high sample rate can influence the sound (higher harmonics generating audible distortion).
Try increasing the -p to 256 and/or -n to 3.
For how the sampling rate and buffer sizes relate to latency, see Suitable as guitar effect pedal? - #2 by Giedrius or some other past discussions.
Hi Giedrius,
Thnx, tried -r 96000, -p 256 and -n 3 and that worked until modep starts up. So, checked jack settings and jack.service runs even with -r 192000 -p 128 -n 2
But as soon as I start modep-mod-host and modep-mod-ui jack gives
JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error
Looks like a sync issue with modep. Do I need to change some settings for modep somewhere?
For now I will use these settings which seems to give the lowest latency with best sound:
exec /usr/bin/jackd -t 2000 -R -P 95 -d alsa -d hw:pisound -r 48000 -p 64 -n 2 -X seq -s
I omitted the -S switch so 32 bit is activated instead of 16 bit. Still would like to try out higher sample rates.
After running sudo curl https://blokas.io/pisound/install.sh | s I get to the end and it seems to error at the end…
Processing triggers for mailcap (3.70+nmu1) ...
Updating /usr/local/pisound...
sh: 1: cd: can't cd to /usr/local/pisound
Now you may run 'sudo pisound-config' to customize your installation!
patch@patchbox:~ $ sudo pisound-config
/usr/bin/pisound-config: 2: exec: /usr/local/pisound/pisound-config/main.py: not found
When looking I don’t see that directory per say but I do see pisound-config in /bin
However when you run it you are left with the following :
./pisound-config: 2: exec: /usr/local/pisound/pisound-config/main.py: not found
Looks as if things are working kind of?I am not sure why things are not pointing to the correct location as I currently mirror the patch@patchbox user/directory. I was hoping that it would have resolved the issue but it did not. Maybe a script edit?
Please post the entire output of running this command:
curl https://blokas.io/pisound/install.sh | sh
I did this from a fresh install:
patchbox@patchbox:~ $ curl https://blokas.io/pisound/install.sh | sh
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Checking if the kernel version is 6.1.74 or newer... It's not.
Your Linux kernel version (6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-2712) is below the recommended kernel version (6.1.74)!
Please upgrade it first by running the below command and following on screen instructions, and run Pisound install again!
sudo rpi-update
patchbox@patchbox:~ $
If you run the sudo rpi-update you get:
sudo rpi-update
patchbox@patchbox:~ $ sudo rpi-update
*** Raspberry Pi firmware updater by Hexxeh, enhanced by AndrewS and Dom
*** Performing self-update
*** Relaunching after update
*** Raspberry Pi firmware updater by Hexxeh, enhanced by AndrewS and Dom
FW_REV:a31776f0abb4bee5b79a3334bf748c99a813c084
BOOTLOADER_REV:11c64e3721d104319d8b0f18b675d9beb4eb7f30
*** We're running for the first time
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*** Backing up firmware
*** Backing up modules 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-2712
WANT_32BIT:0 WANT_64BIT:1 WANT_PI4:1 WANT_PI5:1
##############################################################
WARNING: This update bumps to rpi-6.6.y linux tree
See: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?p=2191175
'rpi-update' should only be used if there is a specific
reason to do so - for example, a request by a Raspberry Pi
engineer or if you want to help the testing effort
and are comfortable with restoring if there are regressions.
DO NOT use 'rpi-update' as part of a regular update process.
##############################################################
Would you like to proceed? (y/N)
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BOOTLOADER: up to date
CURRENT: Fri 16 Feb 15:28:41 UTC 2024 (1708097321)
LATEST: Fri 16 Feb 15:28:41 UTC 2024 (1708097321)
RELEASE: latest (/lib/firmware/raspberrypi/bootloader-2712/latest)
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*** A reboot is needed to activate the new firmwareIf you run the script again after updating you get this as output:
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ow you may run 'sudo pisound-config' to customize your installation!
patchbox@patchbox:~ $
The real problem on your system is this:
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/BlokasLabs/pisound.git/': Could not resolve host: github.com
You have to figure out why github.com or GitHub - BlokasLabs/pisound: pisound kernel module and user-mode button is not accessible for your system, it seems to be a network problem, or a git client problem.
Ohh snap. Yah I totaly missed that. I wonder what is happening.
Thanks for being my second pair of eyes and sorrry for any inconvenience. I see if I can find out why.
Kat
Figured it out. The OS image I have automatically sets up the default user settings (ex. Wifi) so at the point in the script it does its hotspot stuff it drops any wifi connection. Any connections at that point are refused. Causing the errors we see above. I just plugged it in via network cable and disabled wifi and have had no issues with this thus far.
I noticed it seemed like mod is missing in the config program? Also when trying to edit the hotspot it ends failing with the following trace:
patchbox@patchbox:~ $ sudo pisound-config
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/pisound/pisound-config/main.py", line 177, in <module>
loop.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 287, in run
self._run()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 385, in _run
self.event_loop.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 790, in run
self._loop()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 827, in _loop
self._watch_files[fd]()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/raw_display.py", line 416, in <lambda>
wrapper = lambda: self.parse_input(
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/raw_display.py", line 515, in parse_input
callback(processed, processed_codes)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 412, in _update
self.process_input(keys)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/main_loop.py", line 513, in process_input
k = self._topmost_widget.keypress(self.screen_size, k)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/decoration.py", line 840, in keypress
return self._original_widget.keypress((maxcol,maxrow-top-bottom), key)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/decoration.py", line 622, in keypress
return self._original_widget.keypress(maxvals, key)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/container.py", line 1135, in keypress
return self.body.keypress( (maxcol, remaining), key )
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/listbox.py", line 968, in keypress
key = focus_widget.keypress((maxcol,),key)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/wimp.py", line 543, in keypress
self._emit('click')
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/widget.py", line 461, in _emit
signals.emit_signal(self, name, self, *args)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/signals.py", line 265, in emit
result |= self._call_callback(callback, user_arg, user_args, args)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/signals.py", line 295, in _call_callback
return bool(callback(*args_to_pass))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/local/pisound/pisound-config/main.py", line 82, in hs_menu
items = values.get_hs_config()
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/local/pisound/pisound-config/values.py", line 90, in get_hs_config
with open(settings.HS_CFG, 'r') as f:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf'
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Thnx, I had the same issue, tried to install it while using WiFi. So plugged in the Ethernet cable and installation went flawless in my case.
I am not sure how you use your pisound but did the Mod web UI work for you ?
Yes, all works fine for me, really love this setup with Modep and Pisound. Screwed it up two times when fiddling around with all kinds of settings.
I just checked your message from 10 days ago. I have the py-files in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urwid/ but my system also has no /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf. Never tried to use the hotspot. I just have the Pi connected to my WiFi router (after setting it up over the LAN). I did not disable WiFi by the way, plugging in the LAN-cable was enough. My advice is to do a fresh install again with a plugged in LAN-cable if you still have issues.