I’m new here and I’m slowly learning the basics. I want to trigger notes in the low (bass) while I have my hands very busy in the midrange. I have 5 notes to trigger one after the other. In rhythm with my playing of course.
I thought about triggering the notes by pressing a simple pedal (I don’t have a pedalboard), so using CC 64. I used the Transform pipe and it works for the first note (which doesn’t stop by the way…), but how to trigger the other notes now… ??! I need some kind of counter: 1st note, then 2nd note, then 3rd note, etc.
Does anyone have an idea? Do you see another way to trigger 5 notes one after the other (and it can’t be with a sequencer because I always play in free style and not on a defined tempo)
this should be possible (but maybe not real straightforward)
before venturing possible strategies can you give some more detail?
This will help us understanding what sort of patch needs to be designed:
Does the CC64 pedal do “down = value 127”, “up= value 0” (this can be used for Note Off)
Will the notes all have the same velocity (of course we can make Random fluctuations afterward)… …or do we need a separate “cycle” for the velocities too?
Is it OK to assume the Bass1 → Bass2 → … → Bass5 → Bass1 → cycle will be active throughout the use of this preset?
3. Ha… here’s the note for the section : D2, D#2, F2, D#2, D2, then stop.
And the same section is played later in the song.
4. Yes.
My 2 hands are playing arpeggios at this point and I won’t be able to start anything with them. That’s why I thought about my left foot and another sustain pedal. Eventually I’ll buy a pedalboard to play some low notes at appropriate times.
And I guess Midihub can’t really detect which arpeggios I’m playing and deduce the lowest note from them. FYI both hands play something like:
D3-Bb3-D4 (repeat 4 times);
D#3, Bb3, D4 (repeat 4 times);
F3, Bb3, D4 (repeat 4 times);
D#3, Bb3, D4 (repeat 4 times);
D3, Bb3, D4 (repeat 4 times);
I really need to look into this situation and find a solution because it happens a lot in my pieces. Triggering the bass at the right moment gives a perfect dramatic feeling! A good challenge, because I never play with a click.
thanks for help!
ho… and I love to hear “this should be possible (but maybe not real straightforward)”
does “stop” here mean you’re just not pressing cc64 anymore or it’s gonna ignore you even if you do (until you tell the system to “reset”)?
I’m hoping the former!
If so, here’s the rough shape of it:
each CC64 v=127/0 is Transformed to a Note On/Off where the Note Number is mapped.
a separate pipeline uses the Note Off to create a “marker” Note On, followed by a short Length…
…these “marker” Notes pass through a Scale Remap which gives us the next “marker” Note
This new note is transformed in two ways: first to directly create a CC mapping to change the value for the next “marker” Note… …and second, via Note Remap†, to then create a CC mapping to modify the original Note Transform in the main line
† as you want repeated notes in your sequence we want the two D2’s & the two D#2’s to be represented by distinct notes in the “marker” scale. These can be adjacent allowing Note Remap to ‘squeeze’ them into the same value.
It’s late so this may not be crystal. PM me and I’ll make a better attempt when I’m more awake…
By stop, I mean that I have to press the pedal to stop the last D note (il could also be a predetermined duration where a Note-off is sent automatically). I don’t use the pedal anymore except when this section returns. INFO: It’s not the Sustain pedal plugged in my master keyboard, it’s another one plugged in a Keystep 37.
Tell me if I’m not clear.
I’m definitely going to need help because I don’t understand the logic to accomplish this yet.
Thanks.
Description
Pipeline2 creates the bass note with velocity Rescale
Pipeline3 uses switch=off to create the mappings for the next note:
creates marker note
Scale Remap gives the next marker
Transform creates 16.CC100 to set this marker
Note Remap squeezes these marker note values down to the bass note values so that
Transform → 16.CC99 can set the correct next bass note.
This way is neater but depends a lot on how many repeated notes there are.
Both rely on the technique of creating a mapped note in order to use (abuse!) Scale Remap to make a repeating cycle of values.
This note never gets played; it’s just used to then create CCs to set mappings.
If this is still puzzling after MIDI monitoring some foot presses &pipes , I’ll try to draw you a diagram to help visualise it.
NB Store to Preset at the correct point in the cycle so you start on the correct note!
hi resonotter,
I tried your first example and it works. I managed to put the velocity at 127 (was 0) and now I’m trying to change the notes to my correct pattern. I didn’t figure the logic of the notes yet but will try it again tomorrow. I probably need to look at the Sc Remap…
