Starting and Stopping Clock from Octatrack

Hello, I’m new here so let me know if this has been answered already somewhere.

I have my Octatrack connected to my new Midihub and I can start and stop the clock using its transport controls. In the editor I can’t seem to midi learn the Octatracks transport controls so the other gear that’s connected to the Midihubs outputs won’t start or stop unless I manually click the transport controls in the clock properties section.

What am I doing wrong???

Also, can I have the Midihub automatically follow the Octatracks clock and pass it on without having to set it in the editor?

*edit: I can get the Digitakt to start and stop using the settings below but the Digitakt plays at twice the tempo of the Octatrack.

this is the easier part, @Bork69 (welcome to Midihub, btw!):

  • in the setup shown above, everything :asterisk: that’s coming in from OT is also going out to Digitakt and USB-A…

  • …so you don’t need the Clock pipe if the OT is already providing clock messages.

This explains why you’re getting a double clock because both the Midihub pipe and OT are adding their clock ‘ticks’ into the flow

check it out yourself!

make a quick test patch while MH is connected:

here are 3 Clocks all sending 120BPM to Virtual A-OUT
Screen Shot 2024-12-01 at 23.21.31
guess what the BPM at Virtual A-IN is…


:asterisk:(so if you don’t want everything getting through, drop in a Filter pipe to discard whatever you don’t need)


I can’t seem to midi learn the Octatracks transport controls so the other gear that’s connected to the Midihubs outputs won’t start or stop unless I manually click the transport controls in the clock properties section

Not really understanding what you want here:
do you want the OT’s Stop/Start/Continue to get passed onto the DT & USB-A?

If yes, use MIDI monitor to check what’s coming in
Screen Shot 2024-12-01 at 23.41.38
(PS I’ve used Settings… → Incoming Filters to hide the some messages to make it more readable)

btw, How is the device getting the MIDI from USB-A–via a Patchbay?

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@resonotter

Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it.

Ok, so after reading your reply about the Octrack and Midihub clocks doubling that made total sense. I ended up not sending clock from the Octatrack and only using the transport controls. I am now using the Midihubs clock and it seems to be keeping everything, especially Ableton, in much better sync than what it was without the Midihub.

I guess I just have to set the BPM in the editor if I’d like to change it for the next track I work on.

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Hmm, curious that Octatrak’s clock isn’t giving very good results; AFAIK there are several OT users on the forums – maybe one of them can offer advice

If you have a spare control to hand, you can try mapping Clock pipe’s BPM to a CC.

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hi there

if i understand correctly you want to control DT&Ableton with OT,
if that is the case then i recommend this way plus ,adjust MIDI CLOCK DELAY OFFSET in Ableton until you feel is right


Screenshot 2024-12-09 at 12.08.20

The main issue I had been trying to address was that, without a master clock, Ableton’s bpm would go way down (like -27 bpm) when I pressed play on the Octatrack.

Now with the midihub as master clock, when I press play on the Octatrack Ableton stays in sync within 1 bpm.

but why not to send midi clock from OT?

I was, but Ableton was having a hard time catching up to the Octatracks bpm when I pressed play. Maybe I’m doing something wrong?

hmmm,that is interesting,i just made test my self to be sure
so i am sending midi clock from OT to Midihub and to Ableton,and to be honest i have table solid BPM match up to one decimal point
i am on MB pro 2014,macos 10.14,midihub that is it


one little thing is that on the start ableton is adjusting to a offset ,but other then that is pretty solid as it can for a midi,so i am intrigued ,why you have that problem

did you set on OT to send TRANSP and CLOCK?

let’s fix that
because it should work pretty stable

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With the Octatrack sending clock and transport through my 4th Gen Scarlett 16i16 there is considerable lag while Ableton tries to catch up. See below:

But why to send transp and clock via
scarlet and not Midihub?

But also does it float after one ,two bars ?

Because like i said previously ,it will adjust it self to offset on start and then should get stable.

That was just an example of why I bought the midihub.

Without the midihub as master clock, Ableton takes too long to catch up to my Octa’s clock. I want to record external instruments into Ableton and the bpm delay is too much to make it work how I think it should.

With midihub as master clock, when I start my Octa Ableton stays in time right from when I press play, which is what I want.

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