We can’t predict that yet. 
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I’m just here to express a want for a pipe to transform CC to NRPN.
I have a sequencer (Synthstrom Deluge) that does not support NRPN, only CC. I wish I could send out CC and transform it to NRPN values.
Hoping this pipe can be made.
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Yes. Me too. Then I could use a nanokontrol to control the vocoder in my microkorg XL for example. Would be really useful to have more hands on control there.
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You could use a couple of Transform pipes to produce NRPN compatible messages, but of course a dedicated pipe would be easier to use.
However, to get the full 14 bit range, 2 CC knobs would be necessary - one for coarse value adjustments, and another for fine adjustments. Do you think this would be fine?
I’d like to give the Transform idea a try, could someone tell me which 2 specific CCs you’d like to transform to which NRPN id? I’ll cook something up. (be specific to your current setup, so as little modifications are necessary as possible)
It would be easy to test it with turning the arpeggiator on and off in the microkorg xl+ .
Then it uses these parameters:
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Use NRPN MSB (CC#99) [Bn, 63, mm] and NRPN LSB (CC#98) [Bn, 62,
rr] (n: channel, mm, rr: parameter no. upper and lower bytes) to select the
parameter. -
Use data entry MSB (CC#6) [Bn, 06, mm] (n: channel, mm: parameter value) to specify the value.
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ARP ON/OFF:
MSB (Hex) 00(00)
LSB (Hex) 02(02)
Value (transmitted): 0: OFF, 127: ON
Value (received): 0…63: OFF, 64…127: ON
This is set up to convert CC #50 - just change the number in the CC Range Filter pipe.
CC To NRPN.mhp (109 Bytes)
If this works, let’s try some parameter that makes use of both MSB and LSB for value.
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Works perfectly. I see if I can give an example of using both MSB and LSB soon.
Of course a dedicated pipe would make it less messy.
But really glad it’s doable!
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It seems like the MicroKorg Xl+ only uses MSB. So I will check my other synths. Otherwise @DudFaz perhaps could help us.
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No. None of my synth need both LSB and MSB.
But now I should be able to program my nanoKontrol so it operates both the vocoder and arpeggiator on the MicroKorg XL+. That brings new joy to old equipment. No more menu diving!
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If anyone has a synth making use of both MSB and LSB of NRPN or RPN for something, let us know.
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I have a problem controlling the vocoder levels.
It uses these settings similar to what we did earlier:
Level1…Level16: [Bn, 63, 04, Bn, 62, 40…4F, Bn, 06, mm]
(n: channel, mm: parameter value)
So I should change the second argument in the third transform pipe. Without entering letters which isn’t allowed, I guess I can only work with the lowest band in the 16 band vocoder.
Or am I wrong?
These are hex numbers, you have to first convert them to decimal and use that value, you can use this online converter: Hexadecimal to Decimal Converter
Thank you! Of course. I haven’t been thinking of hex numbers since I was a teenager. I’ll check it out.
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Works flawlessly now! Thank you!
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I have a Sequential OB-6 which uses both MSB and LSB via NRPN and would love to test possible CC to NRPN solutions with Midihub.
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing. I’m trying to get my head around using this technique to change LFO1 shape on my Prophet REV2. LFO1 Shape uses MSB 0 and LSB 38 with a course value from 0 to 4 to set the waveform. I tried replacing 50 in the patch to 38, but it’s not working. Perhaps I’m missing something?
Check this out:
CC To NRPN.mhp (2.2 KB)
You’ll have to use two knobs - one for MSB, the other for LSB values, and do 2 mappings, see the attached preset’s descriptions for instructions.
Please adjust the NRPN parameter number in 2nd and 3rd Transform pipes, as described in the description, to something your synths support.
Give it a try and let me know whether it’s convenient to control the high resolution parameters using 2 regular knobs.
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Thanks a ton for sharing this! I’m trying to change the Prophet REV2 LFO 1 shape with a button on my KeyLab 88. On the REV2 panel there’s one button to cycle through the 5 possible LFO shapes. I’m performing a piece where I need to change directly to particular shapes without a different shape in between. On the REV2 panel for instance I would need to go though Saw and Rev Saw to get from Triangle to Square.
On the KeyLab the buttons have a switched control that sends a programmable CC value for on/off when set to a toggle, or in the gate mode it will send one value while pressed and another that could be filtered out with the Midihub when released.
Could I do this with two pipes similar to what’s in “CC to NRPN.mhp”? To change the LFO 1 shape on the REV2 MSB is 0, LSB is 38 and the possible values are course 0, and fine 0-4. So if I was transforming CC 57 for example to change the shape to Triangle (0). What would need to go into the pipes to make that happen?
BTW: I don’t see any notes in the description fields in “CC to NRPN.mhp”, so maybe they got lost?
Thanks!!!
John
There’s 2 versions of the file, use the one from my latest post:
It loads alright for me. 
For your use case, try this:
Prohpet Rev 2 LFO Shape.mhp (131 Bytes)
It takes CC# 57 and converts 0-127 to 0-4 values. (or remove the Rescale pipe, and send CC values 0-4 :))
If possible, configure your controller to send particular CC value to select the desired shape.
Let me know if this works