# Can I install MODEP without Patchbox?

**URL:** <https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041>\
**Category:** MODEP\
**Created:** [October 20, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041 "2022-10-20T04:47:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/u/paschenberger)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/1 "2022-10-20T04:47:09Z")

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Hi there,

Patchbox doesn’t seem to work for me.  
I used to have MODEP on Raspbian (I think) and want to get that back - is that still possible?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/u/Giedrius)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 8:31am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/2 "2022-10-20T08:31:42Z")

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Set up our APT server: [https://apt.blokas.io/](https://apt.blokas.io/)

Run `sudo apt install modep`

What is the issue you’re seeing with Patchbox?

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**Author:** ![paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/u/paschenberger)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/3 "2022-10-20T08:47:45Z")

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Thanks,  
By set up our APT server, you mean:  
_curl [https://blokas.io/apt-setup.sh](https://blokas.io/apt-setup.sh) | sh_

and then I run

_sudo apt install modep_

Via Patchbox I had sound quality issues and CPU at 100% quite a bit. Just seemed glitchy.  
Tried to reinstall Patchbox and no luck. I’m sure I could find a way to make it work if I read all the info in this forum, but don’t have the time.  
I’m using a Raspberry Pi 3B.

Since it used to work, I figured I’d rather just install it on Raspbian or similar.

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**Author:** ![Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/u/Giedrius)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/4 "2022-10-20T10:36:45Z")

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Yes, run those commands.

You could just create topics for particular issues you’re facing and get suggestions how to get to the bottom of them and sort them out. Just saying CPU is at 100% is not very actionable, you could run `top` command to see which processes consume the most CPU and then you could move on to troubleshooting them and finally resolving the issue. The community is here to help 🙂

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**Author:** ![paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/u/paschenberger)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/5 "2022-10-24T07:09:21Z")

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Thanks Giedrius,  
So all it takes it time… I did it again, and… I guess with a little more care. So now patchbox works and MODEP works fine as well on my pisound. Phew.

Q: I’ve now lost all my Plugins, I used to have a whole bunch and now there’s only 75 or so, and access to Patchstorage.  
I’m looking for a Shimmer reverb (I think Shiroverb is one) and I can’t find info on how to find/install  
Any tips?

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**Author:** ![Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/u/Giedrius)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/6 "2022-10-24T11:47:57Z")

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Until Patchstorage gets populated with more plugins, you can use this as a workaround to get the old plugins, from our APT server:

```bash
sudo apt install -y modep-lv2-*
cp -r /usr/modep/lv2/* /var/modep/lv2/
sudo chown -R modep:modep /var/modep/lv2
sudo chmod -R 775 /var/modep/lv2

# Restart MODEP so LV2 changes take effect.
sudo systemctl stop modep-mod-host modep-mod-ui
sudo systemctl start modep-mod-host modep-mod-ui

```

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**Author:** ![paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@paschenberger](https://community.blokas.io/u/paschenberger)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/8 "2022-10-24T20:45:52Z")

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Thanks for helping out.  
Seems like it worled 😉

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Routledge](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/paul_routledge/32/1484_2.png) [@Paul\_Routledge](https://community.blokas.io/u/Paul_Routledge)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/9 "2022-10-26T22:30:48Z")

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Just use your original image of the SD card that you have backed up.

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**Author:** ![jungleboy](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jungleboy](https://community.blokas.io/u/jungleboy)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/10 "2023-07-11T15:17:53Z")

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I would like to know how to install modep without patchbox os as well.

Don’t get me wrong, patchbox is amazing but I cannot install it on orange pi. So I would like to know how to install modep on a different board.

Do you know how to proceed. Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/u/Giedrius)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/11 "2023-07-13T10:46:54Z")

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If the OS on Orange Pi is Debian based (`apt-get` is available), it may be enough to simply do the stuff mentioned in above reply: [Can I install MODEP without Patchbox? - #2 by Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/2)

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**Author:** ![jungleboy](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jungleboy](https://community.blokas.io/u/jungleboy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/12 "2023-07-13T11:01:22Z")

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That’s awesome that it can be installed on a debian based.

How to setup the apt address for apt get?

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**Author:** ![Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Giedrius](https://community.blokas.io/u/Giedrius)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/13 "2023-07-14T09:38:07Z")

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Run the command as shown in on [https://apt.blokas.io/](https://apt.blokas.io/)

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**Author:** ![Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/avijit_mondal/32/4033_2.png) [@Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/u/Avijit_Mondal)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/14 "2023-09-23T07:04:11Z")

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Hi, I Install Modep and all plugins . Now want to create pedalboards from web ui. How can I open it in browser? What is the web address ? and also, modep-mod-ui not opening when I go for [http://172.24.1.1/](http://172.24.1.1/) from patchbox.

When try to open ui in browser, it said

Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at 172.24.1.1  
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.  
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.  
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the web.

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**Author:** ![jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/jtemple967/32/5555_2.png) [@jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/u/jtemple967)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/15 "2023-09-23T13:10:14Z")

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Welcome to the Blokas community!

I would suggest to first try and connect to [http://patchbox.local](http://patchbox.local)

If that doesn’t work then you might need to get the ip address of your device and try connecting with that. For example [http://192.268.1.1](http://192.268.1.1). (your ip address will be different).

Of course assuming that you’ve connected your pi to your wireless network.

If that doesn’t work post back here again and we’ll try to help further.

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**Author:** ![Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/avijit_mondal/32/4033_2.png) [@Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/u/Avijit_Mondal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/16 "2023-09-24T04:42:45Z")

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I tried evrything . But I failed to get the ui . Can you please tell me , how can I use ui in a standalone spi display connected with rpi ?

Actually I want to make a pedal only using modep not patchbox .

Yeah, One more thing, jack cannot connect with IQAduioCodec Zero Sound Card. So I cant start jack also .

Thank you for your reply .

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**Author:** ![jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/jtemple967/32/5555_2.png) [@jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/u/jtemple967)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/17 "2023-09-24T16:28:27Z")

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So we have a starting point, are you using a RPi? You mentioned running MODEP on something other than patchbox os. Are you using patchbox os or some other distribution?

As far as MODEP, are you sure that mod-host or mod-ui is running? You can check that with the systemctl command. Not in front of a Linux box so I can’t provide an example at the moment.

If MODEP is running and you want to use an spi connected display, can you browse to [http://localhost](http://localhost)?

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**Author:** ![Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/avijit_mondal/32/4033_2.png) [@Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/u/Avijit_Mondal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/18 "2023-09-25T08:36:30Z")

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Yes, I’m using a RPI 3A+ . Yeah I used patchbox. But It crashed on a certain point . So, I decided to use modep only on raspbian 32 bit os . I did not check [http://localhost](http://localhost) on spi drived display . Today I will check it and will inform .

Yeah, mod-host or mod-ui is running after installing Modep . I checked it properly .

No Sir, sorry, I used sudo systemctl restart jack modep-mod-ui modep-mod-host . But no luck. Sound card works fine . [http://localhost](http://localhost) doesn’t work.

Thanks again sir for your support .

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**Author:** ![Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/avijit_mondal/32/4033_2.png) [@Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/u/Avijit_Mondal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 10:10am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/19 "2023-09-25T10:10:22Z")

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finally, I got success with patchbox . Modep Ui is running successfully . Sir, can you please help me to configure piiq audio with patchbox ?

And one thing I noticed, juju fbcp-ili9341 driver interrupts patchbox .

Thanks in Advance

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**Author:** ![jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/jtemple967/32/5555_2.png) [@jtemple967](https://community.blokas.io/u/jtemple967)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/20 "2023-09-25T11:54:46Z")

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Can you confirm what model of piiq audio You’re using? Is it this one? [Raspberry PIIQ Audio Codec Zero](https://robomart.com/raspberry-piiq-audio-codec-zero)

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**Author:** ![Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/user_avatar/community.blokas.io/avijit_mondal/32/4033_2.png) [@Avijit\_Mondal](https://community.blokas.io/u/Avijit_Mondal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041/21 "2023-09-25T13:19:10Z")

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Yeah, I am using this one [Raspberry PIIQ Audio Codec Zero](https://robomart.com/raspberry-piiq-audio-codec-zero) . USB interface works fine for me .

I want to use piiq codec zero for small hardware design

[Next page](https://community.blokas.io/t/can-i-install-modep-without-patchbox/4041.md?page=2)
